A discussion between Firoze Manji, Kenyan scholar and activist, and Rob Wallace, published on 8 April 2020.

Rob Wallace, is author of Big Farms Make Big Flu (Monthly Review Press, 2016). He is an evolutionary biologist and a visiting scholar at the Institute for Global Studies at the University of Minnesota. This discussion will look into how viruses such as the new coronavirus get generated. We also discuss the extent to which, despite the virus being lethal, people are dying because of the failure / inadequacies / absence of health care.